I have two distinct lives. One in the trenches of low-budget film and television, the other in professional gambling. Because of the feast-or-famine nature of show business I need a reliable income... gambling. So here you will read about both worlds. Enjoy!

Thursday, July 21, 2022

Gambling With an Edge - guest Norman Zadeh

Our guest this week is Norman Zadeh.  Norman is a former mathematics professor, and longtime gambler.  He wrote one of the first math based poker books back in 1974.  He has been a winning gambler at backgammon, poker, and sports betting.

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Show Notes

[00:00]  Introduction of Norman Zadeh

[00:39]  Norman’s gambling background, poker, backgammon

[04:41]  Writing a poker book

[07:15]  Does Norman still play backgammon?

[08:48]  Superstition, cosmic unconsciousness 

[11:35]  Sports betting, handicapping

[13:49]  Modeling baseball

[16:46]  Handicapping basketball

[20:13]  Investing, trading in the stock markets

[21:35]  Opportunities to make money with math

[23:58]  Writing software, writing songs

[26:11]  Analyzing backgammon in the 1970s, brute force, XG

[31:40]  Kyle Larsen story

[33:00]  Investing versus betting




[39:55]  Norman’s books

[42:39]  Norman’s investing competition

[51:20]  Recommended: The Master Mechanic by I.G. Broat, Risk of Ruin Podcast episode “The Audacity of Help” education in math or computer science

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